Re: Seth Finkelstein / N.Y Times


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Date Fri, 20 Jul 2001 07:47:40 -0400
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At 10:58 AM 7/20/01 -0400, Peter D. Junger wrote:
>Mike Godwin writes:
>: Moreover, I said myself that the very fact of
>: the piece is "flattering" to Seth. Careful readers of my earlier
>: posting know that no one disagrees with me on this.
>
>To say that writing the truth about Seth ``flatters'' him is something
>that I think most readers---including the rational ones---would consider
>to be rather insulting.

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, to "flatter" has
the following meanings:

1.  To compliment excessively and often insincerely, especially
    in order to win favor.
2.  To please or gratify the vanity of: “What really flatters a
    man is that you think him worth flattering” (George Bernard Shaw).
3.  a. To portray favorably: a photograph that flatters its subject.
    b. To show off becomingly or advantageously.

For meaning 3, Webster's Revised Unabridged glosses the denotation
a bit differently: "To portray too favorably; to give a too favorable
idea of; as, his portrait flatters him."

I have no doubt that Godwin meant "flatters" as in definition
3a or 3b; however, when his comment was followed by remarks
that the article as it appeared was poorly sourced, it is no
surprise that readers would see meaning 1 of false or insincere
praise lurking under the surface.

Stephen Carlson
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